Rudy Giuliani, Lindsey Graham to face Georgia grand jury in election case
>>> LOTS GOING ON TODAY. >> A LOT OF NEWS. >> WE WILL GET INTO A. WE ARE FOLLOWING MAJOR DEVELOPMENT OUT OF GEORGIA. SPECIAL GRAND JURY INVESTIGATING EFFORTS FROM FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES OF TRYING TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS. TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYER IS EXPECTED TO APPEAR BEFORE THE GRAND JURY TOMORROW. ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT INVOLVES SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. A JUDGE HAS ORDERED HIM TO TESTIFY. WE ARE FOLLOWING ALL OF THIS OUT OF WASHINGTON. >> Reporter: GOOD MORNING. RUDY GIULIANI’S LAWYER SAID THE FORMER MAYOR WILL APPEAR IN GEORGIA. GIULIANI SERVED AS THEN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S LAWYER.
>> A HAVE TO BE GENIUS TO FIGURE OUT THOSE VOTES ARE NOT LEGITIMATE VOTES. >> Reporter: YOU TALKED ABOUT THE GRAND JURY AT HIS NEW YORK CITY RADIO SHOW ON MONDAY. >> THEY TOLD ME THAT I A TARGET. I’M A TARGET OF THE ATLANTA INVESTIGATION. >> IT MEANS THAT THE INVESTIGATION HAS GATHERED ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO LET THE PERSON THAT THEY MAY FACE AN INDICTMENT AND THAT IS SERIOUS. >> Reporter: FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN UNDER SCRUTINY FOR HIS OWN EFFORTS TO CHALLENGE THE ELECTION RESULTS INCLUDING HIS CALL TO SECRETARY OF STATE BRAD RAFFENSPERGER. TRUMP HAS
DENIED ALL WRONGDOING. >> I HAVE TO GET. TO FIND 12,000 VOTES. >> Reporter: ANOTHER TRUMP ALLY, SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM ASKED A JUDGE TO BLOCK THE SUBPOENA FROM
IS EXPECTED TO APPEAL BUT FOR NOW HE IS EXPECTED TO APPEAR BEFORE THE GRAND JURY. IN A SEPARATE CASE, FIRST REPORTED BY THE “NEW YORK TIMES”, TRUMP ORGANIZATION CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER IS EXPECTED TO REACH A PLEA DEAL WITH NEW YORK PROSECUTORS IN A TAX FRAUD CASE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE HERE WITH MORE ON THESE INVESTIGATIONS. IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU. RUDY GIULIANI IS A TARGET OF THE PROBE AND NOT JUST A WITNESS. HE WILL BE APPEARING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. >> Reporter: AS WE GET LEE AS A WEEK AGO, THEY SAID WE
BEEN ASKING THE D.A., IS HE A TARGET OF THE PROBE OR JUST A WITNESS BECAUSE THAT WILL AFFECT THE WAY WE ADVISE HIM WHEN HE GOES FORWARD. THEY HAVE NOT SAID, THERE HEAD UP AND CHANGE LAST WEEK AND THAT MAYBE THEY WERE ONLY INFORMING HIS DEFENSE NOW BECAUSE HIS ACTUAL TESTIMONY FOR THE GRAND JURY IS COMING OUT AND THAT IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE TO DO BEFORE YOU GO IN THERE. >> AS HE GETS READY TO TESTIFY, WHAT TO EXPECT GIULIANI MIGHT SAY? COULD IT MOVE THE NEEDLE? >> I DON’T KNOW IF IT IS EXACTLY WHAT
HE WOULD SAY BUT WE KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS WHO WILL BE ASKED ABOUT. HE WILL APPEAR BEFORE THE GEORGIA LEGISLATURE MORE THAN ONCE, SPREADING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE NOW CONSIDER MISINFORMATION ABOUT THE ELECTION. HE HAS BEEN A VOCAL PROPONENT OF ELECTION MISINFORMATION HE WAS TRUMP’S PERSONAL ATTORNEY AT THE TIME. WAY BACK IN JANUARY, THEY IDENTIFIED TRUMP AS THE MAIN FOCUS OF THE INVESTIGATION WHICH WAS SPURRED BY THE INFAMOUS PHONE CALL WHERE TRUMP ASKED FOR MORE THAN 11,000 VOTES FROM BRAD RAFFENSPERGER, THE SECRETARY OF STATE. WE KNOW THE THINGS THAT HE IS GOING
TO BE ASKED ABOUT. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM. HE IS TRY TO GET A JUDGE TO REJECT ANYTHING, ANY TESTIMONY, ANY APPEARANCE BEFORE THE GRAND JURY BECAUSE HE SAYS HE WAS JUST DOING HIS DUE DILIGENCE AS UNITED STATES SENATOR IN THE LEAD UP TO THE ELECTION. WHAT IS THE GRAND JURY LOOKING TO HEAR FROM HIM? >> FOR STARTERS, THERE ARE AT LEAST TWO PHONE CALLS THAT HAVE BEEN ACKNOWLEDGED BY BOTH LINDSEY GRAHAM AND BRAD RAFFENSPERGER. AND THOSE OF THE THINGS, THEY ARE SAYING THOSE CALLS WERE — HE IS INVOKING THE SPEECH AND DEBATE
CLAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION WHICH SAYS THAT LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITIES ARE PROTECTED FROM CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION AND WHAT THE D.A. SAID AND AXA WITH THE JUDGE RULED YESTERDAY WAS, THERE’S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING A POLITICIAN AND PERFORMING A LEGISLATIVE DUTIES AND THE D.A. SAYING, THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE DOING. YOU ARE PLAYING POLITICS, NOT LEGISLATING AT THAT POINT AND THE JUDGE KIND OF SIGNALED THAT SHE AGREED WHICH IS WHY SHE ORDERED HIM TO APPEAR NEXT WEEK. THEY ALSO SAID BROADER THAN THOSE CALLS, THEY DESCRIBED BROAD QUESTIONS THAT THEY WANTED TO ASK HIM ABOUT HIS ADVOCACY FOR TRUMP
AND HIS BEHAVIOR AFTER THE ELECTION WITHOUT GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL AND THE JUDGE SAID, WE CANNOT SAY EVERYTHING THAT YOU DID DURING THE TIME PERIOD AS PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE DUTIES, THE D.A. HAS NOT SAID WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO ASK ABOUT SO HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT? AND LINDSEY GRAHAM SAID I WILL APPEAL THIS AS FAR AS I CAN. RIGHT NOW THE HEARING IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEEK BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. >> WHEN ASKING TELLS ABOUT THE NEW YORK TAX CASE WITH FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER? >>
Reporter: I HAVE A MEMBER OF THE LEGAL TEAM THAT WAS PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT HE IS EXPECTED TO ENTER A GUILTY PLEA. THE TERMS OF IT ARE EXACTLY CLEAR, BUT WE’RE LOOKING AT FIVE MONTHS OF INCARCERATION AND AGAIN RIGHT NOW, A LOT CAN CHANGE BY THE TIME THIS HAPPENS ON THURSDAY. IF IT REALLY DOES HAPPEN. AND, IT WAS EMPHASIZED TO ME THAT THIS AGREEMENT DOES NOT INVOLVE COOPERATING AGAINST TRUMP OR THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. THIS JUST PLEADING GUILTY TO THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM, WHICH ARE ROUGHLY NOT PAYING TAXES ON SOME $1.7 MILLION WORTH OF CORPORATE
PERKS. >> SO THIS QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE DEAL WITH THE GOVERNMENT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE FORMER PRESIDENT, WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE IS THAT HE IS WILLING TO GO TO JAIL FOR FIVE MONTHS, RATHER THAN COOPERATE WITH THE GOVERNMENT ON WHAT HE KNOWS ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF THE FORMER PRESIDENT? >> Reporter: YES. THAT JIVES WITH WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT ALLEN WEISSELBERG. HE’S BEEN PART OF THE COMPANY SINCE BEFORE DONALD TRUMP RAN A. AND HE HAS BEEN REALLY DONALD TRUMP’S RIGHT-HAND MAN IN TERMS OF FINANCING THE COMPANY FOR OVER FOUR DECADES.
IF YOU EXPECT SOMEONE LIKE THAT TO COOPERATE AGAINST HIM OR EVEN, YOU KNOW, BY THE WAY, MAYBE THERE’S NOTHING TO COOPERATE AGAINST HIM FOR. BUT IN SOME WAYS, I DON’T THIN
