Enrique Tarrio, three other Proud Boys guilty of seditious conspiracy
LIKE TRYING TO CORRUPTLY OBSTRUCT A PROCEEDING. >> I THINK WE ARE GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU. I THINK WE ARE GETTING THIS PARTIAL VERDICT RIGHT NOW. I’M HEARING IN MY EAR NOW FROM OUR PRODUCERS, COUNT ONE SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY, FOUR HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY. THERE IS FIVE DEFENDANTS, SO I’M NOT SURE WHO ESCAPED THAT. THAT’S PRETTY SERIOUS. IS THAT THE PARTIAL VERDICT OR IS THERE ANYMORE? >> WE DON’T KNOW AT THIS POINT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THE JUDGE THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO REACH AGREEMENT ON WHAT MIGHT BE THE TRICKIEST CHARGE HERE
OF SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY AT LEAST WITH RESPECT TO SOME OF THE DEFENDANTS, TO HAVE THEM COME OUT AND GET THAT VERDICT AND THEN FOCUS THEN ON THE OTHER CHARGES I WILL SAY, THIS IS A WIN FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO GET GUILTY ON SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY, AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BUT IT’S A DIFFICULT CHARGE. YOU HAVE TO SHOW SOMETHING VERY SERIOUS THAT PEOPLE ENTERED INTO THAT AGREEMENT TO BUY UNLAWFUL FORCE TRY AND PREVENT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT FROM EXECUTING ITS LAWS, FROM BEING ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING BUT IT’S REALLY SAYING PEOPLE TOOK
UP ARMS, THEY AGREED TO USE FORCE TO TRY TO PREVENT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM DOING ITS JOB BUT THAT’S DEADLY SERIOUS. >> JUSTIN UPDATE, FOUR OF THE INDIVIDUALS
ARE IN AN ELEVATOR AND SO MANY SAYS WHAT IS THIS ABOUT? PEOPLE STORMING THE CAPITAL TO MAKE SURE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS CANNOT CERTIFY ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTES, WHICH WOULD ALLOW THE PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN TO THEN OFFICIALLY BE PRESIDENT- ELECT AND THEN-PRESIDENT IT’S ABOUT STOPPING THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER. WHAT THEY ARE REPORTING THUS FAR, I THINK THIS IS A BIG WIN FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE FACT THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO GET GUILTY ON THOSE CONSPIRACY CHARGES DEEPLY UNDERCUTS MUCH OF WHAT THE DEFENSE WAS ARGUING HERE, WHICH IS THERE WAS NO PREPLANNING. THEY WERE JUST
LISTENING TO WHAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS SAYING. THEY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW HOW THAT DAY WAS GOING TO UNFOLD. I THINK THE GUILTY IS REALLY UNDERCUTS THAT DEFENSE HERE. >> WHAT HAPPENS NOW, JESSICA? WHAT ELSE IS LEFT FOR THE JURY TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY GO BACK INTO THAT JURY ROOM? IT’S NOT OVER YET. >> IT’S NOT OVER YET. JUST TO BASED ON THE REPORTING IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THEY DID IS THEY KIND OF BIFURCATED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO REACH AT LEAST PARTIAL VERDICTS, OR MAYBE THIS IS EVERYTHING THEY FOUND, WITH RESPECT TO THOSE THREE CONSPIRACY
CHARGES. WHAT I BELIEVE ANNE-MARIE RED WAS THE TOP THREE. THOSE CHARGES DEALING WITH AN AGREEMENT. NOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT THEY’RE GOING TO DO IS GO BACK IN FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANT LOOK AT THE CHARGES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR. ALMOST THE SAME CHARGES BUT NOT BASED ON A CONSPIRACY, BASED ON THEIR INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS. I THINK THAT THE CONSPIRACY CHARGES WERE, FRANKLY, THE HARDER ONES FOR THE JURY TO WRESTLE WITH. NOW THEY’RE GOING TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE INDIVIDUAL CULPABILITY BASED ON THE INDIVIDUAL ACTIONS OF EACH OF THESE DEFENDANTS. THAT COULD GO MORE QUICKLY.
TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THE JURY WAS ACTUALLY ABLE TO PASS THE MORE DIFFICULT THRESHOLD. THEY PROBABLY JUST WENT IN ORDER OF THE JURY VERDICT FORM. >> WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT HERE IN TERMS OF A SENTENCE? >> SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY, I BELIEVE, CARRIES A MAXIMUM OF 20 YEARS. AGAIN, IT’S A VERY SERIOUS CHARGE BUT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO DECADES IN FEDERAL PRISON. THE OTHER CHARGES CARRY SIMILAR SENTENCES. THE CHANCES ARE THAT’S IF AND WHEN THESE DEFENDANTS ARE SENTENCED THAT THEY WOULD BE SENTENCED TO SERVE THESE CHARGES OR THESE GUILTY VERDICTS CONCURRENTLY. MEANING, YOU WOULDN’T
NECESSARILY SAY, OKAY, FIRST OR 20 YEARS FOR SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY, NOW 20 YEARS OR 10 YEARS FOR TRYING TO OBSTRUCT AN OFFICIAL PROCEEDING. BUT THAT IS UP TO THE JUDGE. WE COULD BE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT DECADES IN FEDERAL PRISON FOR THESE DEFENDANTS. >> IT’S JUST, SORRY, I’M KIND OF TRYING TO GET MYSELF UP-TO- DATE WE HAVE OTHER, MORE ON THESE PARTIAL VERDICTS. AND I’M SCROLLING DOWN. >> COUNT FOUR, ALL GUILTY. YEAH. CONSPIRACY TO PREVENT AN OFFICE FROM DISCHARGING DUTIES AT ALL FIVE. COUNT FIVE, OBSTRUCTION OF LAW ENFORCEMENT DURING CIVIL DISORDER
AND AIDING AND ABETTING, ALL GUILTY. COUNT SIX, STILL WAITING FOR THAT. OKAY. SPECKLED ON A SECOND. SORRY. SOME CLARIFICATION HERE. OKAY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. >> I WAS ASKING JESSICA, THE MORE SERIOUS CHARGES ARE THE FIRST TWO. >> I THINK SO. MOST SERIOUS AND THE REASON THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND BREAKING NEWS IS REALLY THAT SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY CHARGE WE HAVE HAD, WE HAVE HAD THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CHARGED FOR WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6th. WE DON’T TALK ABOUT EACH OF THEM . A LOT OF THEM ARE CHARGED WITH LIKE DESTRUCTION OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY, TRYING TO
PREVENT LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM CARRYING OUT THEIR DUTIES. SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY IS JUST A MORE SERIOUS CHARGE AND IT GOES TO THE HEART OF WHAT KEEPS OUR COUNTRY TOGETHER, WHICH IS THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER AND ENSURING THAT PEOPLE DON’T TRY TO TAKE UP ARMS. ESSENTIALLY, BY FORCE THWARTS WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO DO. IN THIS CASE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT DAY WAS CERTIFY THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE VOTE AND OFFICIALLY DECLARE NOW PRESIDENT BIDEN PRESIDENT ELECT BIDEN. >> JESSICA LEVINSON, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A BIG BREAKING NEWS EVENT WE ARE GOING TO STAY
ON TOP OF IT BUT I KNOW YOU ARE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING LONG AS THE VERDICTS ARE BEING READ
