Week 6 Studs & Duds + Injuries Galore! | Fantasy Football 2023 – Ep. 1482
You’re still watching this after that crappy weekend of football and injuries? Well, welcome! I’m happy to have you here. Make sure you subscribe so you can stay tuned for all the better, better times that are coming for us as Fantasy Managers. Enjoy! Oh! Ouch! Welcome in! The Fantasy Footballers Podcast Jason Moore back in the building. Mike Wright, Andy Holloway. Very unique opportunity here for the foot clan because Mike and I haven’t seen Jason really until pretty much this very moment. And so we will be reacting together to a week into football. Yeah. What a good
week in a football it was. Yeah. I mean, you’ve got to be thrilled to be back in the building to talk about the moves you’ve made and the way they’ve helped your season. Like the way that they broke? The way that things that broke for you. Yeah. Yeah. I’m a proud new David Monk Hummery manager. That’s cool. That’s cool. So I got you then, right? That was on me. I made a big Wednesday case for David Monk Hummery and you said, and you fell for it. I should have known that the reaper was coming to
call him. I think you’re the injury reaper this year. This year, certainly. I mean, my league of record team, I’m one of you.
keep battling. Cause like you said, you’re like the listener out there. You’re fighting. You care. So you went to bat and you said, Hey, HN’s out for four weeks. I need to win. Let me go get me a horse. Yeah. So I got David Montgomery. I got a lion and he was, and then he went back in the cage. So yeah, I mean, uh, it was a, it was a really brutal weekend injuries everywhere. And you kind of get an understanding of the weekend when we are browsing the Monday, Monday submissions. And some weeks it
is flooded with the good performances of the week. And then other weeks are like this week when it was hard to, I mean, there were basically three players and I’ll get into the Monday, Monday here, but there were like three players people were happy with. And I read something this morning and I don’t remember where I read it. Otherwise I’d give you a shout out. So I’m sorry. But essentially like the percentage of games this season hitting the under is something like a record since 2000. It’s, it’s a, an incredible amount of games have, I
guess, underwhelmed compared to expectation. Yeah. I mean, the, the dolphins are trying their best to, Yeah. They can’t hold the whole league up. They can’t hold the whole league up. It’s, it’s crazy when I go and I look at what you almost spill or did you spill? No, I almost lost the whole mug. I almost lost the entire mug onto the laptop. Go on, Jason. I forgot how to hold things. Yeah. But if you look at just, just your fantasy league scoring, you know, we, I plan a couple leagues where you’ve got to hit a
certain threshold to be in the top half, you know, like we do that in the megalovola where you get one victory for beating your opponent and one victory for scoring in the top half. And a lot of times it’s like, you need 135 points to, you know, in these leagues to, to get top half. It’s like, Oh, you got 109 this week. You’re good. Mike and I felt like our game was Mike and I took one another on this weekend. And then we were the only two in the studio watching. So we were just pretty
much just having dud after dud. And I think we were the third and fourth highest scoring teams in the league. Something like that. Yeah. Despite you lost CMC, I lost Devo Samuel. We had just, I mean, you played to, you know, to form and it wasn’t great. He was okay. He ended up okay at the end. I mean, I had Damian Pierce that was awful. It was rich rebar. He said, heading into Monday night football, 59.8% of all NFL games this season have gone under the game total. That is the highest rate through six week,
through six weeks of any season in the 2000s. So we need to look at the rules. We need to change some things again. The rules. Yeah. Yeah. The NFL rules. Oh, to open things up even more. No, I look, I have we considered no tackling at all. We have considered that based on some of the penalties that took place this weekend because there were five or six. I don’t, I’m telling you, all tackles are penalties. All tackles are illegal. Yeah. Are illegal. Yeah. Well, see that would get the scoring up. Yeah. That’s all we’re talking
about. Also touchdowns are worth 80 points each. No, I mean, some of these calls, these roughing the passer calls or they were ridiculous this weekend. That one on Josh Yellen. Oh, yeah. Massanine. The defense. That was a you tackled, you tackled him. You’re not allowed to do that. There was a hit on Elijah Moore that was called a defenseless receiver, which was a garbage call. I mean, here’s what you do. Just put one dedicated person in the booth. When a questionable calls made on the field, that person says, psst, huddle up for a second. One,
two, three. That’s not a penalty. That’s it. That’s all you have to do. They should have a different colored flag, like an orange flag. Like, this could be, this could be, I think I might have seen a penalty. Oh man. That’s funny. You know, and then they just got little question marks all over that flag. For sure. All right. End of Monday, Punday, we go. Might as well react to the weekend and let’s get it over here’s a here’s a fair warning. There were a higher percentage of poop related puns this week. Oh, fantastic. Well,
you know, won’t take us long. Let’s start with the good like Raheem the dream or Kai win Williams. Yes. And Mike, we got almond. Hurrah, St. Brown. And that’s all for the good. It’s over. Deandre Flopkins, Poo Poo, Nakuha, Alexander, Madison, D Boo, Sam Hill. Oh, Sam La Porta potty. We’ve been waiting forever for that one. How about do do at well do do at well. How about Jackson Smith and jig bust Jerry, booty, Jaggy, Jerry. That was that one. That was from Steve Smith. Yeah. Steve Smith. Put them on blier. Brock Turdy. Yeah. You
were calling out Brock Turdy for most of the game. Yeah. I definitely trying to defend him. No CMC. No Dibo. I just love that the the trade lands through through of the show. I’ve like, I’d we rift. We finally rift on Brock. And I was like, dude, I think he’s good. I made the joke of I think I’m finally getting to the point where I’m accepting that the 49ers may have made the right decision. And then he was terrible. We just terrible. You lost the PJ Walker. I mean, this is now just keep it in
mind. If you want to play defense against the 49ers, do what Jim Schwartz does. Because now you have Kyle Shanahan who’s one in nine against him. He averages 15 points a game. Kyle Shanahan does against Jim Schwartz defenses and what they score 17. I mean, it’s just I saw a lot of the night. Well, why, you know, he lost McCaffrey lost Dboy. The Cleveland Browns were on a backup quarterback. Yeah. They didn’t have Nick Chubb. Like they were without a lot of things too from the beginning of the game. Not in the middle. Didn’t lose
George Kittle couldn’t get him the ball didn’t lose Brandon IU man who had a couple of drops in this one. Yeah. I mean step one, make it rain. That’s that helps. Yeah. I mean, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was a weird weekend of the upsets. Yeah. No undefeated teams left. Yeah. Yeah. The Eagles went down against the Jets. Crazy backup quarterbacks beating these undefeated teams. Yeah. The Giants just couldn’t pull it off. The only thing that stayed the same this weekend was Jason having no running backs. Yeah. It’s the only thing. All right. Well, let’s get
into all that injury news because that’s what Jason wants to talk about. News and notes from around the league presented by USA insurance. David Montgomery left the game with a rib injury did not return X. A X rays were negative. But the news according to the Detroit Free Press this morning is that he’s expected to miss some time with a rib injury. Cool. All right. Well, the nice thing is if he misses, let’s say two weeks, then they have their bi week. So I might have him in a month. All right. So what are you
doing? I’m going to play him. I’m not going to play him. I will probably I’m guessing I will cry in my closet. That is if I had to guess what my mode of operation is going to be, it’s just going to be lights off. To be honest, I’m shocked that you haven’t already done it. Yeah. Well, I was in I was in Disneyland. Happiest place on earth. I was neutral. I was just completely I had no happiness. You know what I told you before you left. The last time I went to Disneyland was during a
championship game where I needed Dalvin Cook to score six points to win a championship. It’s not the happiest place on earth for fantasy football. No, apparently it wasn’t. Justin Fields dislocated right thumb left the game didn’t come back x-rays were negative MRI on Monday. We’ll find out if what was the backup’s name bag bag baggant badgent something like that. I think you called him Bilbo badgent. I did that. That’s about right. I did that. CMC oblique and rib injury. Debo shoulder injury. Jason, you had a little bit of news on CMC. Yeah. So ironically, the
CMC injury and the David Montgomery injury are very, very similar injuries. CMC, you know, it’s a nonbroken rib. So you’re going to have also I have some of those. Yeah. You’re going to have a week or two CMC though. You know, he’s played through injuries like this before is very tough. They have the Monday night football game this week, which is good news and bad gives them an extra day to recover to get out there. It gives them that little prime time need. You know what I mean? Like that. We’re human. We’ll want to be
there. Right. We’ll want to be out there on Minnesota in prime time. But also it makes it very difficult as managers to actually, you know, have a replacement in tow. I mean, Jordan Mason will be on the waiver show tomorrow in a big way. Yeah. And Elijah Mitchell too. Who Elijah Mitchell was back for his first game. He was bad. I believe he finished with negative yards. He did. But I assume he was more rostered than Mason. Is that not a good assumption? I don’t know. I’m sure he is more rostered. But I’m guessing I’ll
try and find some. I would imagine he’s widely available after missing the last couple of weeks. I mean, I’ll say it now. If I had Christian McCaffrey, I would do everything in my power to just have Jordan Mason on my roster so that I could ride it into Monday night. I’m seeing 28% for Mitchell. Okay. So that’ll be the fight this weekend. Yeah. Debo’s injury. Early news was that it’s not considered serious. But that doesn’t mean he plays Monday night either. So you start looking at, I mean, maybe you end up doing what we always
say. Put your earlier players in the running back spots, the wide receiver spots, throw CMC in that flex spot. Maybe all of a sudden it’s a Juwan Jennings pivot on Monday night if he doesn’t play or a Ronnie Bell pivot or something of that. I mean, you’re playing Minnesota. There are points to be had there. Not playing CMC and him being active is, yeah, that’s the worst possible. Like I just can’t imagine unless you knew he was doubtful, which we’ll tell you all week long what’s going on. I’m getting into it early, but we’ll find
out more. Trevor Lawrence knee injury considered day to day will undergo an MRI. Yeah. There’s a lot of quarterback injuries too. Ryan Tannehill ankle injury. That’s the same high ankle injury that he had last year where he missed most of the year. I mean, there, this is horrific news for the Titans. Malik Willis came in. He did not look like he had improved over the off season. He looked like Malik Willis from last year. I mean, it could be Will Levist time. So they drafted him in the second round this past year. I mean, I
don’t know. You think that they could just completely, but the point being this feels like Derek Henry had a good game. Like Derek Henry has had some momentum in the last couple of weeks and Hopkins had the huge game two weeks ago. But if you don’t have Ryan Tannehill and you have Levist or Malik Willis running this offense, it’s probably going to be brutal. Yeah. You’re Deandre Hopkins shares will have been deleted. Yes. Jimmy Garoppolo left the game with the back injury did not return. He was taken to a local hospital to evaluate internal damage
instead of the rookie. Brian Hoyer ends up taking the field looked pretty good. I mean, there, there, so often we’ve been in this situation where the rookie is more exciting for the team, but the veteran is more exciting for fantasy. It’s the like, you know, Andy Dalton taking the field or we want James Swinston or Brian Hoyer in days gone by. It was Josh McCown who you almost rooted for him to start. I mean, there, there is something to be said about the veteran taking over and being able to provide a little bit of consistent
fantasy value and they’re three and three now. They are three and three. They will go on the road and take on the Chicago Bears. Oh boy. Next week. I mean, it’s probably going to be Hoyer. Damien Harris left the game on a spine board taken to hospital for evaluation, gave a thumbs up when he left the field, which everybody, you know, seeing that the Buffalo Jersey again. Yeah, he was, that was rough. Josh Allen left momentarily to the blue tent came right back out there. Garrett Wilson, he left two times with the ankle injury. It
is a bi week for Garrett Wilson. So you expect him to be okay. And then we got word that Kyren Williams is getting an MRI. He left without a walking boot. Sean McVeigh said that he thought he would be okay. He tweaked the ankle late in the game, but Ronnie Rivers his backup has a PCL sprain that could keep him out a few weeks and Zach Evans enters the conversation as a depth piece with potential start options. That’s my kind of running back fellas. Where I’m going to be diving down to Zach Evans on my
main team. Delicious. And then before the games to Sean Watson, rotator cuff contusion. You can’t drive the ball when he throws the Browns have said that he’s injured. How about this? Tell us that three weeks ago, Mike made the point that like why throw him under the bus about like being medically cleared to play and not coming out and clarifying it to the media immediately. Yeah, just like, okay, he’s medically cleared, but the pain is so severe that we’re concerned that he’s going to hurt himself further or, you know, throw interceptions, whatever the case may
be. Yeah, it’s it’s real easy. You just say, you know, he is he’s even if you want to throw it the medically cleared, which I don’t think you have to do that. Like that’s should not do that. Yes, it I mean, you also you should not clear him with right. He shouldn’t if he can’t play. I mean, well, medically clear just means they’re saying he won’t. He’s not at risk of hurting himself further by throwing the ball because he can’t throw. He’s like, he will not hurt himself anymore. He can’t be can’t hurt himself. Yeah,
it could be Baltimore and San Francisco, right? Yeah, and then they end up winning the ballgame. They did, which is incredible. And that defense is very good. They play so much man. And I was impressed. Anthony Richardson found out he may undergo season ending surgery. He has gotten five opinions from what I understand. And trying to find that one. There is a strong like several of the medical opinions he’s received says he will be better off getting the surgery and starting fresh next year. That’s super disappointing. It’s a bummer because we don’t even really know
what he is. I mean, we’ve we have got to see what one full game and was that even a full game because he got concussed at the end of it. Now the concussion was week two. The week one was he hurt his leg on a on a goal line run, but he came out for a little while. He played 96% of snacks. Okay. So I mean, we’ve seen very little of Richardson, but here’s the truth. Gardner Minshew is a better quarterback for Michael Pittman and Josh Downs for sure. And Josh Downs is like legitimately a
PPR start worthy player at this point. Yeah. And Gardner was not good. Oh man. He was not good for the Colts yesterday. No, he may provide for Downs and Pittman, but he looked really awful. Yeah. Anytime he tried to go down the field more than 10 yards, it was an absolute catastrophe. But also a really slow scrambler, man. Yeah. But it’s about 14 targets, nine for 109 for Michael Pittman. That is that’s a okay man. And we’ll take that and Downs got the touchdown downs got the touchdown, which was important because he took his eight
targets and turned it into one yards. Yeah. PPR. Cleo Herbert went on IR. Man, there’s a lot of injury news. That was today’s news and those presented by USA insurance. Learn more at USA.com slash insurance. I will say that I did some scientific studies this weekend. Nice. As they relate to fantasy football and the unobserved player rule that I mentioned where if you watch your opponents’ players will do really well. I couldn’t watch the second half of last night’s game. And it was the most pathetic performance of my fantasy football life because I was playing
a video game with Papa Josh during the second half because you had Stefan Diggs. I had James Cook and I knew I was going to lose. So I just couldn’t go through it and I didn’t watch and I won. You did. So don’t watch football by a point and a half by a point and a half. And I may or may not have been asking Josh to check his phone over and over again. What’s the score? What’s the score? But I wouldn’t watch. For science. For science. I watched. So there you go. We have a
control. We do. This is fact. Look away. Couple times I looked at the screens. Stefan Diggs caught passes. We’re going to need to test this out with like a mirror. Like if you watch the game through a mirror through a reflection. Does that cancel out the bad juju or even go all the way right to the opposite and all of a sudden it’s great juju. Hmm. It would change everybody’s handedness. Yes. And the score will look funny. We did get breaking news just now. The Broncos might be making a change on defense. What according to
the Pat McAfee show Rex Ryan what could take over as the defensive coordinator for the Broncos. That’ll go well. If you want to form the most polarizing team in the history of the NFL put up Russ Rex and Peyton together. Hmm. Delightful. Hey there were some studs. We’re going to talk about them right now. This week’s fantasy stud muffins. Does anybody have wider teeth than Rex Ryan? No. Has he. Is that World Record stuff. Yes that is. His teeth are actually LEDs. People don’t realize that. But they are. Some of that sphere technology from Vegas.
Exactly right. Those are the ones. Yeah. He lights them up. Have you never noticed this Mike. I’m looking at it right. This is these great teeth. Well yeah. These are like Ross from friends teeth man. Are these real. No. Oh no. You can’t. Have you ever seen teeth like that in the history of when he went in. Look you get humans. When you went in for a new course those aren’t real. They showed him the like different hues you can get the veneers in and he said LEDs. He took a white out out of his
pocket and he filled in one of the color pallets said that’s what I’m looking for. I mean those things they’re good for the defense because it will distract the offense from the side blind them to a tongue of Ilo at twenty one for thirty one two sixty two and three all in the first half really. He now leads the NFL in passing yards yards per attempt. He has 14 passing touchdowns. He is on pace for fifty three hundred passing yards and forty touchdowns and that doesn’t seem like enough absurd like it’s not you know sometimes
we look at these for instance we’ll talk about him soon but when you look at projections over a certain period of time they can be outlandish. I believe that will be very true for Mr. Adam feeling the youngest most. Oh keep dogging him. Oh what. I haven’t been dogging him in weeks. I will. I will continue. That’s Mike’s job. I mean he this guy is on fire but he’s dynasty superstar his pace since week one is almost seventeen hundred yards hundred and sixty receptions one thousand six hundred and eighty nine yards then and you’re right
the pace won’t continue for feeling which I might as well bring him up. I mean he was a monster this week but. What’s nice is Caroline is going to be in that situation all year long. He is just set up for what Bryce young needs. I saw a picture that said. It was like on the it was like a door to an office and it was Bryce young. PPR department and then there was a picture on the wall and it said employee of the month Adam feeling because. It’s just perfect for that team but to
a fifty three hundred and forty if they keep playing like this sure I mean Philadelphia next week that’s a good matchup. That’s great news that is you want when Caroline went up fourteen nothing. I was thrilled. Oh for sure I told Mike I go awesome. Yeah this is great news. Yeah I knew it was bad news for me. Jared golf. Thirty for forty four and three fifty three and two. Jared Garf on the road road Garf. Yeah. And now he gets to take on the Baltimore Ravens followed by the Raiders completing a career high seventy
percent of his passes got on a raw back. Yeah and he got Jameson Williams with one of the funniest touchdown this was receptions that you will ever see. This was like it was almost on like full NFL bloopers moment of the ball is in the air and Jameson Williams is turning his head left and right. He has no idea where the ball is one final turn and the pass was just so good that it just lands right in his arms. And he I mean he made a great play after that but he looked so in
that he drops for all the moments before it. He dropped so many passes that the contrast between him making that catch but golf is the quarterback four and six point leaks. And this is this is why you want to be attached to the best offenses in football. And like legitimately if David Montgomery misses time for Jared golf I mean who is I didn’t know it’s probably Craig Reynolds would be the hammer but how effective is Craig Reynolds going to be. Right you’re saying they might give golf more chances to throw the football. This is probably
I don’t know if this is a move on sell high moment I think maybe you just want to keep playing Jared golf. I saw so many puns related to how bad Jalen Hertz was but here he is in the studs still 280 and three in terms of fantasy football and yes he made some two 80 and two 80 and one sorry to the three is the interceptions. Oh that’s right to 80 and one but he scored on the ground even 47. It’s he played poor and the Jets played great but for fantasy he was he
was very good because pretty good when you get a rushing touchdown it’s extremely helpful. All right let’s take a quick break and talk about some running backs. Dream the dream Raheem must start Raheem most touchdowns it is out of control 17 for 115 and two. Did you say he’s got 11 touchdowns. He has 11. Wow. Yeah yeah and since 2000 there are only a handful of running backs that have 11 in the first six games Priest Holmes two times LT Dalvin Cook and now Raheem most I’m willing to bet he’s the oldest of the guys
that have done that. I tweeted this morning I have a dynasty team with Josh Allen Christian McCaffrey and Josh Jacobs that has been 100% carried by two players that not a soul in a dynasty league would have wanted to throw a third round pick at you try you try I mean Adam Thielen and Raheem most are put up like 70 points for me or something. That’s it’s not fair. I find it wonderful. Kyron Williams second half dominance 20 for 158 one I think in the first half he was two for five. They they forgot to
run. Yeah for whatever reason I mean maybe they just they’re like Cooper cuts back let’s go rear real pass heavy and then they started giving Kyron Williams the ball in the second half and I don’t know what the number is but just watching it was this guy is averaging about three yards before contact and the defense knows they’re going to run the ball like they weren’t hiding anything. It was a chance was hey hey Arizona we’re going to run again and they’re like OK OK we could stop at this. No no they could not stop
anything. This Arizona defense has collapsed. They came out in the second half and I believe they they had a drive that was basically entirely wrong. Yes they just ran the ball like nine times in a row. Just stop us including including a rushing touchdown that had three defenders on top of Kyron Williams and they could not bring him down. Yeah Sean McVeigh was just glowing about Kyron’s performance in the second half. E. T. N. has been dominant Travis E. T. N. two more touchdowns. He is the RB three on the season. How many yards. Go
ahead. Derek Henry 12 for 97. Take it what you can. Really it was one big play. There was a 64 65 yard run something like that. Yeah this touchdown run was was pretty nice as well. So but you’ve got Tajais Spears still getting some work had a really nice run of his own. And now you have extraordinary worries about the offense. If you lose Tana Hill you know it’s like they what is what was really of passing is there to guard against. They do have the buy week so maybe Tana Hill will be good to
go and the big run for Derek Henry was out of the Wildcat formation. So it was also maybe they just do really good play call. Do you remember it. The the big run the Wildcat because they did a reverse behind him that he faked and it just cleared it out. Breeze Hall. Yeah. All was good for fantasy. I mean this is this was not stud worthy. This was OK. Well when we’re for 39 and a touchdown on the ground. But he’s still one of the highest scores of the week. Yeah I mean I guess in
the context of this week that’s why he’s here. Yep. He’s the RB five for when you were 12 for 39. Well he had five for 54 and the in the as a receiver as well. I’m shocked. Needed one more yard. I mean that’s not. I mean when you have a bunch of Montgomery and CMC’s go down I guess it raises up the list. Kenneth Walker RB seven on the year nineteen for sixty two and a touchdown. He’s had seven five five and seven red zone carries the last four weeks. It almost feels a little bit
like the Lions last year where they would just end up inside the 10 zone and not throwing for touchdowns. Remondre and Ezekiel Elliott both had good games. Did Zeke have a good I mean he’s big scored. The big play was called back. Yeah but he still scored. OK. Ten for forty six and a touchdown for Remondre. The big the big help was he got back into the passing game six targets five for twenty four. Yeah. Zeke had a long touchdown on a pass called back scored later and Remondre also left this game for a little
while. I know because I traded for a month and after Montgomery went down you guys were texting you like oh no Remondre to the tent for a concussion. I was like this is what is happening is I mean it is a worth noting of he played sixty five percent of the snaps which I’m seeing right now so that was an uptick over the last couple of weeks and he was forced to miss time with injury and we got the targets back up there so that’s at least I mean the plan that that Jason executed which
I mean I was a part of hoping that they would be true to the word of work we have to change up the offense we got to do something and that turned into six targets for Remondre which he needs to get featured there. Better me in the sell high camp off of this game because this offense Bill Belichick, Matt Jones, Malik Cunningham I don’t know who else is going to get there. I can’t sell him. I have no running backs. I need him. There were some whispers some salacious rumors of that will Greer might be
the one who gets a call. Yeah. I put in a waiver claim on Will Greer on Sunday. No did you? Yeah. And you grab Malik Cunningham and none of them are going to fix the problem. No no no they definitely won’t. They’re one of the worst offenses in football. I made a list of players I’ve least enjoyed watching this year. Number one on the list is Matt Jones. Number two on that list is Derek Carr. And number three on that list is Dalvin Cook. Those are my top three least favorite to watch. Where’s Ritter? Desmond
Ritter isn’t on that right now. Oh okay. He’s playing better. When I watch Matt Jones I can’t even get distracted by talent around him. At least when I watch Desmond Ritter I can go oh there’s Bija. Right. Oh there’s Drake London who had a good game. I mean Bija is not on the list but I’m sure that Drake and Kyle Pitts are going to be in the studs. Yeah. More studs at running back real quick. Chuba Hubbard, 19th for 88 and a touchdown. All he does is perform when he gets a chance. They have the
bye week then they have Houston so that will be a follow the news closely for what happens with Miles Sanders. Zack Moss back into the end zone. Zack Moss just seven for 21. John and Taylor just eight for 19. Neither guy could get it going on the ground. Both got it going in the passing game. Six for 38 for Moss. Five for 46 for Taylor. So pretty even split between the two as far as 50% of snaps for Zack Moss. 42% for John and then Taylor and I think you would expect to kind of see
it now shift to where it’s John and then Taylor in the lead although next week against Cleveland and then the war lanes. It’s a bad looking run. Yeah. Gotta get those targets. Man. Yeah. If you split at all against bad or against really good defenses that makes it tough to and you got Gardner now. Well, but with Gardner is I mean seven targets from all six for Taylor. That’s yeah. That’s an outrageous target share to the running back. That is fair. Kareem Hunt 12 or 47 and a touchdown. I’m ashamed to say he looked pretty
darn good against San Francisco. He did and Jerome Ford was having a I think a pretty bad game but then at the end of the game they figured something out and then all of a sudden they were the running game opened up and Jerome Ford padded his stand line 17 for 84 and two for seven through the air. So not a terrible game for him. You want to talk about pace. Tyree kill on pace for 2300 yards and 17 touchdowns. He was six for 163. He had another touchdown a deep one from to a pretty
comical pretty impossible to stop. I’ve never seen a player more impossible to stop than Tyree kill this year. Do you think it’s just oxygen like is the only thing that can stop Tyree kill? Cramps too. He had cramps. He had to leave for cramps. That’s what I mean. Like he’s it’s like his hydration. Yeah. And energy is like the only thing the defense cannot stop. Oh the only thing that can stop Tyree kill is Tyree kill himself. Right. It’s just like oh man he is too tired from dominating. Right. That’s it. That’s what you got
to do. You just need you need to allow the first four or five touchdowns. The first couple possessions just let it be like an 80 yard touchdown bomb. So this is like a boxing situation. Yeah. It’s a rope. Yeah. Rope. Come on. Come get us. Show me how fast you are. Oh no we can’t stop you. I like the sound of that for fantasy. Amon Ra 12 for 124 back baby one and his touchdown. He needs to send a gift basket to Craig Reynolds. What a block. He blocked was awesome. He annihilated. I mean that
was a defender. That was like my favorite block. I can remember seeing it. He he he scored that touchdown. Right. Reynolds scored that touchdown. Amon Ra had no business getting a touchdown there. And then just the number one fantasy wide receiver since week two is Adam Thielen 11 for one 15 and one yet again 13 targets yet again. Unbelievable. Cooper Cobb seven for 148 and one. He’s back baby. Yeah. He was back and for the first time he was back in lieu of or he took the place of any relevance for Puka Nakua. Yeah. Puka
did have a down game. He dropped a touchdown at the beginning. He still had 33% of the targets so it was it’s like the they went away from him. Just was a down game for Puka. Yeah. And two to I don’t. Yes. I don’t worry about it very much for Puka. This is a game where like like you said drops touchdown early had the target share and then that when they came out in the second half they’re like oh we can just run the ball like crazy totally successfully. You’re up. You don’t need to throw
it anymore. But all of Cooper Cubs production came in the second half. Well the majority of it. Yeah. I mean you you’re you’re obviously splitting here. It’s not going to be Puka minus Cooper Cup like we saw in the beginning of the year. But I’m I’m saying I’m not worried about like this is the type of game that I think people will overreact to and say oh now that Cooper Cup is fully back. Cooper Cup is the reason that Puka didn’t have a good game. I don’t think that’s the case. I think that it was
the fact that you know he was not needed very much at the end of this game and I don’t think they’re going to be having quite as often an easy match up like Arizona and Kyle saying Puka Cup had 100 yards by halftime. So what did he end with 148. I don’t remember when the touchdown happened. That might have touched down was the end of the rushing drive. OK. But so the most of his production was the first half. OK. I’m going to stand corrected there. Rashid Shahid two for eighty five and one. Drake London
was crazy impressive on the day. So they’re throwing the ball so much more in the last couple of weeks. You love it. I love Drake London the player has been so frustrating over those first few weeks watching him not get targets and then Desmond Redder just be a below average starting quarterback. So they were getting their butts kicked. I mean it’s nice. They didn’t commit to just running the football when I mean they were getting they were getting whooped they had to come back. 12 targets is amazing. In fact on the year just for context
he’s on pace for 120 targets which there we go in this offense. You’ll take it. A. J. Brown has been a monster. In fact I think he’s five or four straight games with 125 or more yards. He’s just unstoppable defensively. That is correct. He is he’s so much bigger and stronger than all these DB’s. You know you. I think the last couple games have been really disappointing for Devontae Smith where I think fantasy manager is very disappointed in the total production but he had 11 targets. He had a bad drop. He is a great wide
receiver and don’t go away from him but he is the two. You know there was there was you know questions whispers early in the year in the offseason like could A. J. Brown really be the two. No A. J. Brown is alpha. The nice the thing about Philadelphia’s offense right now is that it doesn’t look that great on a weekly basis and when it was a well oiled machine last year both players were always great but when it when your offense isn’t isn’t quite as top tier the alpha ends up being the more stabilizing force.
I mean if Devontae Smith through six weeks is the wide receiver 31. Yeah. I mean there there doesn’t mean he’s not going to have good games. I mean T. Higgins has been banged up and heard and hasn’t had a great season yet but he’s a trade for candidate to me again. It was last year’s story too right. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. He had 11 targets. He had a brutal drop that would have potentially completely changed the game for Philadelphia’s outcome. Michael Pittman 14 targets. Stefan dig 16 targets. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah. Pittman was looking
like a true bust in the early part of the game ends up nine for 109. I would expect more of the same for Michael Pittman. You want to go back in the in the drop. Well I mean if you’re if you have me sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. City is it’s a state of mind. We’re I mean like we’re open. Yeah. Come on. You don’t need no passport. Nah. Borders are open. Nah man friends friends. I could leave though if I want to. Sure. Absolutely. Yeah. Okay. You could talk bad about our city when you’re out
there and we’ll still let you. You just gotta let the producers know. Well how are you feeling today about. Sounds like a nice sounds like a nice place. It’s great. It’s great. Cool man especially with Garner Minshew. He’s got that vibe. This one people buy the t-shirts. They buy the pity city t-shirts right now. Shop ballers.com nine one oh one nine. It’s great to see. Savon Dex was the only man targeted in the first half. He is. He has been so good. I mean he is over a hundred yards in five of six games. The
disappointment was week two where he was seven for sixty six other the but the bills. We want to talk about an offense that looks broken the last couple of weeks of the Buffalo Bills. It was a travesty against the Jacksonville Jaguars couple weeks or two weeks ago when they lost putting up 14 points against the Giants and it was a just scratch and claw to finally get to 14. They got to figure some stuff out. Well I wonder if you guys care about this breaking news the oh and six Panthers have handed off play calling
duties. Frank Reich is giving them up handing them off to offensive coordinator Thomas Brown. Oh I know someone that’s going to care about that someone is going to care about that a lot. His name is Andy. I heard I just like the play calling. I checked in with the locker room. There was full support unanimous support for the entirety of the team. There was just one there was one day. Can we hear the voice. I don’t like this plan. This is. Oh I don’t care. He’s probably fine but we’ll say if Sunday rolls around or
the next time they play and that’s six targets for Thielen you’re going to freak out. You bet I will. Jalen Waddle seven for fifty one and one he started to he’s starting to come alive a little bit. Go be Myers another touchdown five for sixty one. Zay flowers got back into the end zone. Kendrick Bourne ended up for ten for eighty nine in that game it was hard to watch Kendrick Bourne is just the Patriots are so strange of I feel like if they actually highlighted Kendrick Bourne more the office will be much better. I’m
not saying he’s a superstar but he is he’s better than like he’s better than what they’re putting out there. They’re one of the Bill Belichick should be fired. His general managing of his team. Retired retired retired. Re-fired. Yeah I’m just what are you doing. I’m trying to say you can’t fire Bill Belichick. Yes you can. No you can’t. You can’t fire you have to let him walk. Yeah you can fire. Well you can you can fire him you can go in that office and say hey you’re going to retire. Yeah you’re going to retire. So
you think the headline will be Bill Belichick a step down as head coach of the New England Patriots. Yeah that would be it. Yeah okay you can you can fire him secretly through a resignation but you know Nelson Aguilar, Devonte Parker, Juju Smith Schuster, Kendrick Bourne these are not players that provide Mac Jones the ability to even put on display anything. They could use Jacobi Myers. Yeah I mean it’s an embarrassment because they had made a decision apparently Bill had made a decision post Randy Moss that I’m never going to equip you. I mean this
has been this has been a long time that we’re not going to invest at the wide receiver position on top tier talent but we’re going to invest more money than we should on Nelson Aguilar. They have actually. And John E. Smith. I think it is a talent evaluation problem because they have when you bring up like oh they invested too much money on Nelson Aguilar that was that was immediate in free agency that they went out that year and they went hard after their target and got them. I think they celebrated. They drafted Nikhil Harry.
They spent draft capital to. Yeah that’s another example. They have they have tried to equip. I think it’s a talent evaluation problem with wide receivers. They just suck at it. Apparently Travis Kelsey Dalton Schultz Kyle Pitts Johnny Smith who you know sell high on Kyle Pitts would be my advice when you score two weeks in a row because Johnny Smith is still heavily involved. He scored a touchdown both had four catches. I mean you can not sell high because what are you going to get to replace your tight end. I mean that’s you want to
roll Kyle Pitts back out there but negative game script has been official. He scored early. Wow I’m looking at this little just the context of how bad the week was. Yeah put it on display. Only three of the top 10 tight ends this week were started. You had Kelsey Pitts who was started in 68 percent of leagues and Mark Andrews. The rest of the top 10 are just guys that give me the names. Dalton Schultz 25 percent started. John Smith 13 percent started Michael Mayer which keep your eye on him. We kind of highlighted him
a bit last week that said it was it was strange that you would spend a second round pick on this guy and then do absolutely nothing when you could use him. Got a few targets the past week and then had him. He must not have made our threshold here to be a stud but he had a he had a solid game. Yeah and he’s super talented. Yes. You know this is a guy who dominated in high school dominated in college had the draft capital to continue in the NFL. Britain strange. Yes Taysam Hill. Kylan Granson
and Trey McBride. T. McBee. Somehow started in one percent of leagues. That would be too tight in leagues. Something like that. All right let’s move on. Hooped in his big boy pants. Do we have enough time. Do we have enough pants. Because this could be a long segment. Cousins. Purdy Stafford Gino and Mayfield were the duds at quarterback which you know. Yeah they were bad but I almost want to talk about them not at all because I don’t think that there was a lot of dependency there. You you couldn’t have been expecting a ton from.
I mean Kirk Cousins would have been the one that you hoped for but you didn’t have Justin Jefferson. OK. I want to talk about Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes. Those are the two players in the partial dud category. They put up like twenty two fantasy points this week in our league and six point league. You know they were drafted significantly higher than a ton of to our golf or how or you know some of these players that had bigger weeks and this has been a trend like Patrick Mahomes the defense in Kansas City. Kelsey being
really the only reliable target and then Lamar Jackson like this has been a trend in in Baltimore. Mike you said it to me this week and like their offense is not good. No it’s it’s not the the Moncan experiments. I mean look Lamar on the course of the season has been good for fantasy football. The past two weeks have been rough and you had the you know the drop gate two weeks ago and this this performance against Tennessee you had hoped for more but 21 for 223 a passing touchdown and he put up 62 rushing
yards. So I mean he’s still a top 10 quarterback on the week. Back scoring was super low because he is sitting at I’m looking at 17 points in a in a four point scoring format. So like that’s which is what that should that should not be QB seven. It’s also what Mahomes was. So let’s not pay attention to the weekly rank as much as right under underwhelming numbers and the prescription going forward for those guys. But the yeah the offense is we’re we’re seeing more Lamar throwing but the the routes and the scheme overall not
not featuring Mark Andrews not not designing up better deep shots for Zay flowers. It’s it’s really frustrating. I am probably more concerned with Mahomes than I am with Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson’s offense I think has room to improve. There are things like Mike just said like why aren’t you using Mark Andrews more scheming Zay flowers down the field like those are changes that could be made that could be positive. I think on Mahomes they don’t need to make changes. I think the biggest problem is their defense has been very good. They’re running game with Pacheco
is working and you know in in years past their their defense hasn’t necessarily been this good. So I worry more about what is needed from Mahomes. I don’t know that it’s going to change that much. I mean he is phenomenal. I’m not speaking anything. He’s the best quarterback of all time. We all agree about that right. And he certainly could be. He’s not the greatest of all time like that’s Brady. He’s got the title but but the best like he’s I guess I wouldn’t say that myself but I’m pretty I’ll be close pretty soon. So
you know but for fantasy purposes I do have slight concern that what you’re going to see from Mahomes is like you know the quarterback six or the quarterback seven when he was drafted as the number one quarterback Lamar at least is still running. I mean you know you had Lamar with he was 62 yards this week 45 last week. Yeah. I had a game with 100 on the season already. Are you saying you’d rather have Lamar rest the season. Yeah I think I would rather have Lamar than than Mahomes. That’s hot. Lamar has Jacksonville San
Francisco Miami for his playoffs just for what it’s worth. Mahomes has New England Las Vegas and Cincinnati for his playoffs just for what it’s worth. I mean we’re six weeks in sure you can glance that direction when you talk about setting yourself up for the the end of the season. Here’s a here’s a bigger question. Would you rather have to a would you rather have Lamar Mahomes and Jason’s eyes lit up. I mean to has been to it can explode this offense. I you just want pieces of the Dolphins offense right now. Let me let
me put it this way. Would you be more afraid facing to or Mahomes or Lamar. I would be the most afraid facing Lamar and then to and then Mahomes. Interesting. I think I’m still scared of Mahomes. Oh I’m I’m I’m of those three. I think I think he’s still at the top of this. We we have the the the success that they had last year. You know basically with no true number one wide receiver. It is filtering into this year of we can get it done without that and the defense stepping up is certainly a
part of it. But the the transition to Pacheco. Jay you you didn’t mention it but I think that’s the that’s the bigger thing is in the Mahomes era we haven’t you know since Karim Hunt we haven’t seen the Kansas City Chiefs established anything like Pacheco last year was what he was the guy and he was getting some like single digit opportunities per week and no passes. Yeah this year he’s getting maybe six catches last game. Yeah the last month Pacheco has sixteen point eight rushing attempts per game. That’s a lot. I mean I bring I
bring those comparisons up because this is the time of the year where you start to adjust your preseason narratives with the realities of today. You start looking and saying like you know I last week before the week I was like do I trade to and picks to get Lamar. That’s it I mean it’s tough to make those calls you stick with the fire that is has got you here do you do you make a move for somebody that’s been reliable over time. I mean Lamar has had I believe two or three zero touchdown games he’s
had no three touchdown games through the air and we were hoping for more with Monkin. All right running back Duds mixing looked awful. Pierce thirty three percent of snaps. Now the Pierce game had the chance of being a complete fool you situation. He had three separate drives with the ball inside the three where they gave him the football and he didn’t score. Yeah three carries inside the five that amounted to negative seven. New Orleans stuffed all of them. And they played a lot with Devon single Terry at the a lot. Thirty three percent of snaps
for Pierce. Fifty four percent for single Terry single Terry on his opportunities looked like a good running back and they won. They beat the Saints with this formula. So go they’re going into the bye week. It could be just a blip in the radar for Damian Pierce and the snap count but you at least need to have your antennae up with single Terry and then Latavius Murray in Buffalo. What I seem to have observed as a very interested party is that there is a migration to single Terry and Latavius when they believe they need somebody
to be a fundamental pass blocker. And it seemed like the Giants were getting after Josh Allen last night and suddenly Latavius is on the field a ton. Oh man. James Cook had one of the biggest whiffs of a pass block. It didn’t actually result because you know Josh Allen just rolled out but it was like right this way. So there you go. I didn’t even see that play but I think that that’s what there is a trustworthiness with Latavius on trying to pass block when Allen’s getting hit and the offense isn’t working. I give their
cruising James Cook. I mean James Cook was better on the ground. You know he’s 14 for 71 but both of those guys are losing snaps. Pierce James Cook concerning. Rashad White. Yeah he lives here. This guy still hasn’t cleaned up from last time. Deonta Foreman. Foreman’s I think a huge disappointment because it was you know that’s a player who everyone went out and got in case the news broke in his favor. It did. The news broke in his favor and it was like all right. And then he gets 15 carries 65 rushing yards. I mean
it just didn’t result in fantasy points. Yeah. And the 15 carries like how many of those were second half carry. We were bewildered. Darrington Evans had like I don’t know what seemed like 80% of the work in the first half. Yeah it seemed like he was on the field and it was a this whole situation is hilarious because Sunday live I’m answering questions about Deonta Foreman. You know Roshan’s out. Travis Homer’s I don’t even know who’s who’s fourth in the depth chart and I look at Oh there’s Nevins. Yeah I remember the promise of Darren
to Nevins. Don’t worry about him. Deonta Foreman’s going to get all the work. And then the game starts as Darren to Nevins. What is happening here. What are we doing. But the they will be interesting. The Chicago Bears moving forward. Yes Roshan Johnson is going to be back the way that they treated Deonta Foreman in this matchup. You have to presume that Roshan is going to be the featured running back for the team. But what do they what do they do with if Justin Fields can’t go. And that’s could be a really run heavy team.
Well I know I’ll mention it quickly because James Conner is going to be out for an extended period of time. Oh man. But like a D. Mark Cotto got almost no work. Damian Williams was featured. Keontae Ingram Mike’s favorite player who I’m going to get you a Jersey. Keontae Ingram. They don’t make them. No they don’t. They don’t make them. Hey it’ll be a custom. He hit four yards in attempt. Did he really. He did. So what was the breakdown and carries there. So I’m looking it up. So Ingram had 10 for 40 and Damian
Williams was eight for 36. The snaps were heavily in a Keontae’s favorite though by heavy. I mean it was at 37. So what do you what would you who’d you play moving forward. It’s you would be Keontae Ingram. All right Duds at wide receiver. Tell me if you’re worried. We talked about Puka. And four for 26. Devonte Adams. He’s for 29. He’s hurt. So I mean his quarterback. Yeah. I mean the one that had like eyes for him. With Brian Hoyer it should be OK ish. That’s that’s fine for fantasy replacement. The question is when
will Devonte Adams be healthy. And if he’s going to keep playing through you won’t it’ll just all of a sudden be one week. Oh Devonte Adams has targets and he’s good now. And in the meantime I guess you’re you’re just starting you’re starting him and crossing your fingers that this is the week that he’s back. I think this is the week he’ll be back against Chicago. Yeah. We had a we had a team in our league Alborland who is not with us this morning. He’s he’s alive. He’s alive. I said this morning. OK. I didn’t
say he’s just not with us. He’s no longer no longer with I didn’t say no longer. It did kind of sound like it did. He’s alive but not fantasy speaking because last week D.J. Moore and Justin Fields provided him with enough fantasy. Oh yeah that was cool. Ammo to score 200 fantasy points to 100 points. Oh because that was against you. Yeah. That’s why you said cool when he scored 70 this week. Yeah. Cool. D.J. Moore 5 for 51 proving that even at a good matchup even after a great performance he can still be undermined
by a bad offensive. That whole game performance by Justin Fields. That was we got crushed by the divisional matchup of Minnesota versus Chicago should have been an an offensive output. Instead we got a game 13 to 19 and everyone was struggling Jordan. The only reason Jordan Addison is not a wasn’t featured in the in the bus areas. He got a touchdown but aside from that Addison did nothing. Yeah. I mean obviously with D.J. Moore you lost half the game for for Justin Fields. He only played 53 percent of the snaps which was very unfortunate. Yeah.
Yeah. Devonte Smith we talked about a five to 44 Calvin Ridley. These games have become a pattern. He seems to be featured have a big performance. It was the number nine wide receiver last week seven for one twenty two. But if you look at the three weeks prior to the big breakout and the week after it you know two four thirty two three for forty two for thirty eight four for thirty that’s four games out of five where you’re not breaking the forty yard mark and he gets the Saints the this upcoming week. Trevor Lawrence
is banged up. I don’t know that’s I mean where are we with a great situation. I want to check something really quick with Christian Kirk because and it’s Thursday. So Christian Kirk on the season. Is dominating Christian Kirk is the wide receiver 18 and Calvin Ridley on the season is the wide receiver twenty twenty four four currently twenty four and that’s counting Christian Kirk week one was not. Yeah part of the offense. Mike Evans ten targets for forty nine. Yeah. Three three drops for I mean some pretty bad drops in this one. T. Higgins two
for twenty. Yeah figure this was what was going to happen but T. Higgins is. Did you talk about that on Sunday Live. Yeah yeah I talked about especially because I have him so I talked about this is my situation. I’m going to play T. Higgins because he’s who is your pivot. I mean it was either D. Mercado which that was just that was a do I. Play this guy knowing that he’s not going to get the work because everything said the account to Ingram was it or it was Wanda Robinson with Tyrod Taylor against the
Buffalo Bills which turns out was the correct decision without a one year the week. Yes. Yep. Hollywood Brown for thirty four on eleven targets missed a couple touchdowns by a fingertip of the Los Angeles Rams defender. Yeah and there was also not really worried about it not worried about that at all there was there was another big play down the sideline where he had his defender smoked yeah and the ball was just thrown a little too far out of bounds Seattle Baltimore Cleveland next three games for the Cardinals so they’re. Going to lose three in
a row. Gabe Davis the streak finally ended three for twenty one. And a fumble I honestly thought the game part of the problem with the Bills offense was the over targeting of Stefan Diggs and not having creative play calling to involve Dawson Knox gave Davis James Cook James Cook had zero targets do you realize this. The guy that’s supposed to be ridiculous. You know you come out and you run these screens and you get him involved in the offense to start the year in the passing game and now you don’t target him. Yep. What’s that
all about. Yeah what’s that all about and what’s it all about of you are hyper targeting Stefan Diggs and then on the final passing touchdown go to a guy who’s not had a target the whole year worked though right. Yeah it did. That was the most. No it worked but that’s a that’s full process over results or results over process I’m sorry I did I did get all worked. Yeah it was like it was really good for them. They won the game because of it. They they did they did not deserve to I’m not talking
about that play but OK over all the John the Giants the half time debacle of when John when they’re at the goal line with no time left or I mean with with plenty of time left but no time out and they ran and they run the ball and then they’re like they were laying on say come on Berkeley of course they are because you were idiots and you ran the ball. Papa Josh was like I said I was playing some some rocket league with Papa Josh trying to some half cathartic cathartic second half and I
was just having him check the score and he literally he check his phone and he’d be like I don’t know if it’s refreshing this isn’t right right six nothing Giants over Buffalo it’s not right this thing’s right right. Kittle died at the I mean this is verbatim what Jason said he has explosive games and then you get this he went from three touchdowns to one for one in a game you lose Dibo and CMC inexcusable yeah Dallas Goddard didn’t kill you five or forty two I would not worry about him. He might have been the
fourth best sort. I mean like a player started yeah. Sam LaPorta for thirty six on eleven targets. Yeah that’s a buy opportunity. Sure Logan Thomas I heard him called Logan anonymous. Yeah that’s pretty good. That one was really disappointing yes. Logan Thomas yeah because you had you know targets the week before eleven targets and then you go forward and you get one point and he had been targeted a lot in previous weeks I mean eight targets in week one just disappeared. Poof Colcomat two for nine back down to earth Zach Erz two for twenty two
I wish the Cardinals would have told me that this was the week that they’re going to get the ball to train McBride was the the matchup was there. It was a tight end against the Rams is going to have a good week. It just was not the guy that who that they’ve been using. So there you go big time waiver show tomorrow we’re going to break it all down there’s a lot to sift through a lot of depth running back options to be picked up. You’ve got more by weeks next week that are going to
be more impactful than this past week was there is so much to talk about and this is like make or break time of the season where you know one of our tips on this show before Mike’s brought it up you’re you’re getting to the stage where you’re trying to buy some wins and sometimes that’s looking very very much at the week directly in front of you above all else to stay in contention for playoff implications in your league and you know Jason did it with David Montgomery. I wouldn’t just many facts that victory. Yeah I’m
sorry. I’m sorry Jason that doesn’t feel like hey no I’m the same division you want me to lose just like I want you to lose shame on you Mike for not beating it. Yeah you were upset last night that I had one. Yes I am always upset when you win in the record. I know you could have spent the rest of your fab on D. Markado. Okay. All right big waiver show tomorrow. Don’t miss it. Follow us on YouTube dot com slash the fantasy footballers. See you tomorrow. Good bye. Thank you for listening to another
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